Just Say ‘No’

“The purpose of government is to secure and protect the God-given inalienable natural rights of the people. For their part, the people must obey the laws of their rulers. Thus, a sort of contract exists between the rulers and the ruled. But, if a government persecutes its people over an extended period, the people have the right to resist that government, alter or abolish it, and create a new political system.”

According to John Locke (1632-1704) legitimate political power derives solely from the consent of the the people to entrust their “lives, liberties, and possessions” to the oversight of a government as a whole, as expressed through its legislative body. Locke asserted that the most likely cause of any revolution would be abuse of power by government itself: when it unduly interferes with the interests of the people, they are bound to protect themselves by withdrawing their consent. When mistakes are made only rebellion holds any hope of the restoration of fundamental rights and, moreover, since the existence of civil order depends upon the people’s consent, only they can judge whether or not such circumstances have actually occurred. In Locke’s view the possibility of revolution is a permanent feature of any properly-formed civil society.

I wonder, do we have a ‘properly-formed civil society’ here in England?

It seems a shame to let the words of this great empiricist philosopher fall into dis-use and we should remember that rebellion is not the prerogative of the Left. They’ve shown themselves to be authoritarians under a Trades Union/SWP/STW/UKUncut banner and once again the true Libertarians, those against an authoritative and communitarian big state, will rouse themselves in opposition and come from all political viewpoints and none.

If only people would stand back for a while and consider whether they want big government or small government, more intrusion or less intrusion. The country seems to be worked into a fever-pitch of having to express their not-very-well-considered opinions (and I’m not immune from that accusation) on newspaper websites. Writing your knee-jerk opinion in a place where comments are allowed, and then sitting back thinking you’ve done your bit, isn’t enough. Even blogging isn’t enough to change the status quo. The fact is we should be hammering our MPs with emails, letters and telephone calls complaining bitterly about the erosion of our freedoms.

Failing that, I recommend questioning every authority figure who questions you and just saying ‘No’. As always.

24 comments for “Just Say ‘No’

  1. April 28, 2011 at 7:37 pm


    A great piece.

    “The fact is we should be hammering our MPs with emails, letters and telephone calls complaining bitterly about the erosion of our freedoms.”

    I would urge everyone to try it.

    It has never worked for me but then, I know that politicians (once elected) couldn’t give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut about you, me, or any so-called “concerned citizens”.

    They care for themselves, and themselves only.

    It is hard not to be bitter about it all. Voting/electing changes nothing for us peons. It changes everything for the elected. Five years of bliss! Five years of concentrating solely on you! And your expense claims! And YOUR future! What a wonderful gift from the people!

    If I sound jaded, it’s because I am. If I sound disillusioned, it’s because I am.

    The answer?

    Fuck ’em.

    Fuck ’em all.

    The alternative is to do what all of our so-called contemporaries do: wail and moan. They do precious little else. Easier, MUCH easier, to target people like me who are at least attempting to make a difference.

    “Its all bollocks”, they cry.

    “No legal standing” they whine.

    All the while they do sweet fuck all.

    My liberty is on the line. I really do mean my liberty, my freedom.

    But I will gamble it all in a heartbeat, for those insensitive, unthinking fucks across all parties. And yes, I really DO mean those that should be watching my back, the Libertarians.

    I will win. I will overcome.

    You can thank me later.


    • April 28, 2011 at 8:28 pm

      I find it strange to be in The Jaded Club too CR – I think that would have been a better name for this blog!

      I know what you’re saying but I’m not writing for the likes of you, I’m writing for the people who haven’t come across a website like this before, the people who are happy to write on online msm sites which ‘graciously’ allow comments – and then they go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like, ‘Yes, we don’t want Sharia but bring in capital punishment and chop off the hand of a thief, that will teach them.’

      The only reason you’re being targeted is because you’re effective and actually getting the message across. I’ll visit you in gaol so long as you’re not in some God-forsaken hell-hole like the Yemen or Glenrothes.

      I’ve got something going on at the moment – thought of getting in touch but decided to just keep binning it and see what happens. I still think you’ll be in gaol before me.

      Like you, I no longer care, it’s just that no-one has asked me to prove it. Like it or not, CR, you’re the standard bearer.

  2. April 28, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    once again the true Libertarians, those against an authoritative and communitarian big state, will rouse themselves in opposition and come from all political viewpoints and none


  3. April 28, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Yup, here we go. The point is that the government is exercising its powers to benefit certain groups, i.e. a) welfare claimants and pensioners, b) the quangocracy, b) the corporatist (nominally private) sector.

    Despite what people say about public sector workers, the corporatist sector receives one-and-a-half times as much as public sector workers (and as we well know, half of public sector workers have nothing to do with front line services). Welfare claimants themselves receive very little in absolute terms.

    So far so good.

    But then we come to the biggest rent-seekers of them all – the land owners (all the way down to yer owner-occupier). This is where the Faux Libertarians suddenly abandon their principles and say that rents derived by landowners under the protective umbrella of government, and whereby they enirch themselves at the productive sector’s expense* are sacred.

    Me, at least I’m consistent.

    * The irony being that most people are both workers and owner-occupiers – they lose in income tax; they lose out by having to pay exorbitant mortgages which are for the benefit of bankers and bankers only and then they applaud their own investment acumen when the government uses their own tax money to prop up house prices, which does not benefit them at all.

    • April 28, 2011 at 7:52 pm

      Only half of public sector workers? I’d put it at a bit higher than that – maybe two-thirds.

    • April 28, 2011 at 8:45 pm

      The government has no powers to benefit ‘certain groups’ beyond that which the electorate give it.

      At the moment we are stuffed full of quangos and lobby groups who have far more influence than those who can be bothered to vote – and people ask why the % of those voting at elections is on a downward spiral.

      We’re in a different world from Locke where governments make rules, supra-governments make rules and everything & everyone ends up beholden to the government.

      Locke’s principles remain the same and for that reason it won’t last – it can’t. It goes against human nature.

      • April 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm

        “At the moment we are stuffed full of quangos and lobby groups who have far more influence than those who can be bothered to vote”

        Agreed to all that, but let’s move on to the next logical step. The biggest lobby is the Home-Owner-Ist lobby. THe HO elite have brainwashed people into thinking that high house prices make us richer (they don’t, they make us poorer and the bankers and large landowners richer) and there is a pattern that governments only get voted out if and when house prices start falling again.

        This is true for three out of last four changes in govt – the only exception was John Major who didn’t bother bailing out banks and propping up house prices and the HO elite got its own back by making sure the Tories were out of power for 13 years.

        Plus, as to quango’s, I trust you realise that most people in this country are meddling authoritarians and the smoking ban is actually quite popular with most people.

        • April 28, 2011 at 10:06 pm

          By ‘home owners’ and ‘HO elite’ lobby groups do you mean construction industries like Taylor-Woodrow or land-owners and landlords? I can’t think of one lobby group that represents ordinary home-owning people – and I don’t think there should be one.

          The problem is with the system of government and the lobby-istas – not the people who own the property.

          The Cons were out of office for 13yrs because they did a Julius Caesar on Thatcher on the orders of the EU – it’s well-documented. Major was their Maastricht yes-man.

          Btw, I wouldn’t be surprised but I’d like to see your source for the smoking comment. If you’re talking about the slow but relentless infiltration into our civic infrastructure, that’s another post.

          • April 28, 2011 at 11:02 pm

            The HO elite is of course bankers, politicians, large landowners (who get CAP subsidies), land owners who make oodles from planning permission, landlords (esp. those who live off Housing Benefit), estate agents, property porn stars, big builders who get subsidies (VAT exemption, cheap loans for FTBs) and so on, they are the ones making the real money.

            But of course, they have brainwashed the average owner-occupier into thinking that house prices rises are the best things ever (even though they are just robbing from their own children).

            And don’t tell me that the NIMBYs in particular and homeowners in general don’t have a very strong lobby – think about the £20 billion INCREASE in VAT and National Insurance which went through with barely a murmur because these are taxes on the productive economy – a small part of which was spent on ‘freezing’ Council Tax (which only raises just over £20 billion a year anyway).

            Now imagine what the outcry would have been if they’d said “We can’t tax the productive economy any more, so we’ll double Council Tax”.

            And the Cons were out of office because John Major was too naive to pander to the Home-Owner-Ists and New Labour did an excellent job of trebling house prices in a short space of time. Do you think it’s a coincidence that JP Morgan have been paying T Blair £500,000 a year since he resigned?

            If ‘The Powers That Be’ really opposed John Major for being soft on Europe (which he was), then why on earth were they happy with New Labour? Or Cameron/Clegg, come to that?

  4. April 28, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    I am disgusted with the libertarians.

    At one time I looked to them for aid and succour, or at the very least, moral support.

    It was like asking OJ to admit that the gloves “fitted rather well, thank you”.

    And these people were the closest I could find to suit, and/or agree with my cause.

    But no.

    They demand a place at the table. And yet they are willing to abandon absolutely everything just for a place at the trough. They do not see that they have to deny everything, all of their beliefs, just to be granted an audience, but still they elbow their way towards everything they (say) they despise. For shame.

    I disavow them. I excommunicate them. I will not, from this day forth, support them.


    All of them.


    • NewsBoycap
      April 28, 2011 at 8:32 pm

      Seconded, every single word.

    • April 28, 2011 at 8:33 pm

      The answer is not to look to new political Parties but to look to ourselves. You’ve illustrated it perfectly.

  5. April 28, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Have I missed something?

    CR, who are these libertarians who have disgusted you? Is it all libertarians? Because I don’t recall ever denouncing you to the authorities.

    As for you, Mark:

    “This is where the Faux Libertarians suddenly abandon their principles and say that rents derived by landowners under the protective umbrella of government”

    I still have no real understanding of why land should be treated differently than any other economic good. The ‘protective umbrella of government’ is supposed to defend all property rights, and ownership of land is no different. Rent is no more protected than any other contractual debt.

    I certainly agree with you about house price rises, but I would say this is mainly because, according to Henry Hazlitt; ‘inflation is the opium of the people’, and furthermore the definition of inflation has been deformed to mean price rises in particular goods, rather than the increase in the money supply.

    • April 28, 2011 at 11:08 pm

      “I still have no real understanding of why land should be treated differently than any other economic good.”

      Don’t say ‘should’, I’m not making a moral judgement.

      It is a simple, observable fact that land values are created by society as a whole, acting as a whole and land is fixed in supply. Therefore you can tax land values as much as you like and the value remains the same and the quantity remains the same. if anything, taxing it means it is used more efficiently.

      Conversely, if you tax the efforts of individuals, then price goes up, output and employment goes down. If you tax labour and capital and enterprise, then it is used less efficiently. Therefore reducing taxes on income and increasing them on land makes us all distinctly better off (apart from the HO elite).

    • April 29, 2011 at 10:11 am


      No, not all. Certainly not you.

      Of late though, I have seen several ‘avowed’ libertarians have a pop at me.

      I had thought that the very cornerstone of libertarianism was to live and let live. As long as I am not harming others I should be free to do what I want.

      As far as I am aware, the only one in harms way is me.

      I may do a post on it over at my place.


  6. April 28, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    Write to my dwarf, sorry MP? What could that possibly achieve?

    I don’t know the solution but I’d get more success by spitting into the wind.

  7. William
    April 28, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    “The fact is we should be hammering our MPs with emails, letters and telephone calls complaining bitterly about the erosion of our freedoms.”

    Sorry but I have to disagree. In front of every MP is at least one civil servant, more if the MP is ‘on a committee’, even more if the MP is a minister. I say civil servant but the reality is likely to be Common Purpose servant. This slave of the Middletons will filter out all ‘rubbish’ from the proles straight to the bin before it ever gets to the MP after marking a few ‘dissenters’ cards for future reference when the Common Purpose drones go ‘beyond leadership’.

    Boning them in person is considered bad form unless it is at a ‘surgery’ where they are always protected by the party agent, WTF a party agent has to do with a supposedly democratic process is beyond me.

    At the end of the day they all swear an allegiance to something that isn’t real a Parliament and not to the people who elected them or the people who live within their constituency.

    The allegiance is sworn to Parliament but they actually do exactly as ‘the party’ tells them. The party isn’t real either but it is ‘manned’ by human beings who are in control of the MP.

    Common Purpose are prevalent throughout ‘the party’ so it really is a total waste of time contacting an MP about anything unless you want them to open something and get their fizzog in the papes or on the telly box/radio thingies!

    • April 29, 2011 at 9:37 am

      You won’t be surprised to know that I agree with every word you’ve said but people new to this have to start somewhere and find out for themselves – 2nd or 3rd hand info shouldn’t be accepted as gospel. Hopefully they’ll realise what we have: that the default position is to question and, ultimately, just say ‘Thanks but no thanks’.

      • William
        April 29, 2011 at 11:42 am

        No GV I understand that those writing comments and posting on here are all of the ‘open minded’ variety of human and as such this comment is ‘preaching to the converted’.

        I’ve argued till I am blue in the face with friends who I consider to be intelligent that there is no government, there is no state which they have to concede is true once they start to work out what makes these entities ‘real’.

        Both only exist in the mind as you and I are aware but even after my friends minds are opened if I then suggest something simply and harmless as stop paying the TV tax they recoil as though I had stabbed them in the heart.
        It seems that for most folk knowing that something is wrong is fine and dandy but as for the doing anything on a personal level to right that wrong is simply a step too far.

        Even this morning my panicking, paranoid sibling came round and said he was taking his car off the road because its road tax runs out at midnight tonight and the Post Offices are shut so he cannot get it taxed.
        They are open tomorrow of course but that fact didn’t register in his paranoid mind which had decided that the ONLY course of action that would prevent him ‘getting caught and fined’ would be to park his vehicle ‘off road’ and away from plod.

        I pointed out that there is a seven day window in which to re-tax a vehicle and astonishingly he said he knew this but even that knowledge wouldn’t dislodge his fear of ‘authority’ from its pedestal inside his head.

        It’s a problem to be sure getting people to wake up but the truth is most don’t want to wake up. They are happy in the world they have created for themselves, they must be because they do nothing to change it for the better.

        Leading by example has much to commend it. This does away with the worry, hassle and frustration that comes with beating one’s head against a brick wall of fear of authority and fear of personal responsibility.

        Sorry to ramble but it is as quiet as the grave here as number one son and my wife are celebrating ‘the wedding day’ by shopping and number two son is listening so something called Now77 😯

        • William
          April 29, 2011 at 1:24 pm

          I’ve had another think about how to get people to at least question what is going on. It has always struck me as madness when a journalist writes the words ‘the government, council, party, police, company’ etc, etc ‘said’.

          My first reaction on reading this is ‘these entities cannot speak’ so who is actually doing the talking?
          And yet this mistake is repeated ad infinitum so obviously there is some purpose to it. That purpose seems to be to ‘humanise’ non existent entities so they become real in the individual humans mind. It seems to me to be a very cynical ploy and one that can only work with constant repetition much like a DFS advert every commercial break on the talking box.

          So is the answer to waking people from their slumber to simply keep asking them questions about their belief in this religion of government by state?

          Then we come to unnamed ‘spokes people’. How many of these unnamed entities appear in print every single day getting a ‘message’ over free from public ridicule or investigation by media?

          The same trick is pulled with the word ‘experts’. These mythical creatures are used to give gravitas to whatever the article penned by a human being be they a journalist, spin doctor, marketer or PR person is trying to fix in the human doing the readings mind. Experts are just someone who knows a little bit more about the subject under discussion than whoever it is they are talking to.
          This was taught to me in my teens by an old but progressive teacher. As he said anyone can be an expert depending upon what the other party knows and can quite rightly assume the title ‘expert’.

  8. Sue
    April 29, 2011 at 7:14 am

    A few years ago, I was just like “everyone else”. I was a busy mum with a full time job and didn’t care much about politics one way or another. I’d moan like “everyone else” but that’s as far as it went.

    The kids left home, I got divorced and moved to Spain. The idea was to put the unpleasantness of my divorce behind me.

    Then I discovered this marvellous group of people while surfing on the internet. They were called political bloggers. Their posts pulled me out of my sheeple trance and I have never looked back. They added me to their number and made me feel like one of them.

    Now we resist together.

    Thank you my friends 🙂

    • April 29, 2011 at 9:38 am

      It’s a shame we didn’t hook up while I was in Spain! I think we’d have made a great team 😀

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