Google/Blogger/WordPress’s kindergarten coders

The other day, I quoted a guy on the awfulness of the new Gmail. Twilight came in, quite rightly, with the awfulness of Blogger:

Blogger (linked to Google) is also parading a new interface and causing many bloggers to threaten emigration to WordPress.

I understand that Google is trying to create a uniform “look” to all their their enterprises. Fortunately we can still toggle between old Blogger interface and new, but that is going to cease at some point in coming months.

Same kind of objections have arisen for the new Blogger look as those mentioned in the post about G-mail. Too much white space, font not bold enough, stuff moved around for no reason but to create “change”. Re-inventing the wheel by making it square.

Quite right but it’s even worse than that, so I discovered.

WordPress itself has “done a Blogger” and wrecked what was once good. Its Menus don’t work with many themes, its new image resizing doesn’t work, comments don’t work with older versions of Firefox and there’s a problem with spam reported from many quarters. Google will not interface with old Firefox – it simply doesn’t allow comments using its new mechanism. Go over to Safari – piece of cake.

Regulars at my place will remember the horrific time I was having with comments and spam a year ago – regulars were being spammed for no reason, all sorts were going on. Now it isn’t happening. I’m still with WordPress and still with exactly the same theme.

So why is it working now and didn’t before?

Simple – I downgraded to an old version of WordPress. End of problem. Whenever I do images for OoL, for example for Mark Wadsworth, it can’t be done at OoL. I do the images at N.O., resize there, take the html and go over to OoL.

The newer versions of WordPress are c**p but even that’s not the end of the story.

My novel[s] are on Blogger. Formerly, if I wanted to edit, it was simple – change it in Word, Control+A, Control+C … take the html over to Post Edit [html mode] in Blogger, Control+A, Control+V, Publish.

All done. As many times as I liked … and I liked many times.

Now they’ve applied the new abomination and here’s how it goes. First part in Word’s OK … take the html over to Post Edit [html mode] in Blogger, Control+A, Control+V, lose all formatting – all of it!!!!   One massive slab of text, no paragraphs, no italics, no blockquotes – nothing!

OK, the only way around it is to go to Compose, which formats for text but not for other html, such as for pics and links, take the html for every pic and link, one by one and put in Html mode in Edit Post. Switch to Compose mode. Take the text body only from Word and put it in to Edit Post in Compose mode. Now highlight the text only in Edit Post but not the pic or link html and go to T in the menu. Select Normal, as it is preset to Small [meaning tiny]. Go back to Html mode to tidy up, Publish.

Oh and you’ll have to reformat every pic now which was there before. Each and every time you wish to edit – it’s a total nightmare. And don’t even think of manually resizing pics. The only way you can do that is to go into automatic and specify new Large and Medium. You can get it to manual but you can’t see it change before your eyes – you have to guess, Publish, look, reopen Edit and do a little more, Publish … and so on.

This has to be the worst “upgrade” I have ever seen from any company – the coding is kindergarten, there are so many issues which haven’t been considered – simple things people with any sort of formatting ability above an amoeba will need – plus it looks awful. They have no aesthetic sense and no coding ability.

They need to be summarily sacked.

11 comments for “Google/Blogger/WordPress’s kindergarten coders

  1. microdave
    May 19, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    “Too much white space, font not bold enough, stuff moved around for no reason but to create “change”. Re-inventing the wheel by making it square.”

    Unfortunately this is all too common. A forum I used to help out at suddenly changed their style and layout. I quickly found out that it didn’t work properly on the older version of Firefox I was using. Perversely that was because the newer one had broken several Addon’s, and I wasn’t prepared to do without them.

    Anyway, I digress – I posted a less than complementary criticism, and quickly got a load of flack. It was obvious who had done the design! Apparently it was my fault for not upgrading my browser, even though every other site worked fine! What really got my goat was how every body else heaped praise on the decision – the term “arse licking” came to mind. Suffice to say I don’t visit there anymore…

    Much the same thing happened at a former employer – a manager would leave, or take early retirement, and his replacement would try and stamp his mark by changing things around. We would complain to no avail, and usually a couple of years later the cycle would reverse, putting things back to how they were…

    Oh, and I know I am not the only person who’s had to spend hours trying to get the latest Firefox versions to look and behave like the old one. The mere fact that many Addon’s have been created specifically to deal with this, and the numerous complaints in help forums, shows exactly the same mentality.

    Why can’t designers/developers ask before they act? Ever heard of the moto “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”???

    • May 20, 2012 at 6:32 am

      In a similar way, at work yesterday – new area manager, wanted to rearrange the manager’s desk in all offices upstairs and change the carpet. Meanwhile, on the shop floor, they removed bags for customers to cut costs to pay for the upstairs cosmetics.

  2. May 19, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    ‘Fortunately we can still toggle between old Blogger interface and new’

    Er…help? Blogger unilaterally decided that I wanted the new dashboard – depite my browser ‘not supporting’ it. I can still get to editing posts the old way using existing links but any attempt to go straight in – or to access the dashboard – takes me to the new version. To add insult to injury, not only is it, as you say, unspeakably ugly, but it doesn’t work properly either.

    Are they trying to drag us all kicking and screaming towards the sunlit uplands?

    • May 21, 2012 at 6:55 am

      Yes!

  3. May 19, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Oh I’m glad it’s not just me. I liked the old blogger it was nice and simple and it just worked, I did everything in html not ‘compose’.

    With the one, I found that when you clicked ‘preview’ it lost all your formatting and it took me ages to find the box to tick to say that you wanted to do line breaks with line breaks and not having to enter a stupid *br/* tag every time.

    • May 20, 2012 at 11:54 am

      Certainly not just you. Blogger’s design was a big part of why I moved to WordPress. Not that WordPress has been all sweetness and light what with their over the top reaction to comment impersonation, and I’ve never really liked the WP interface either when put next to the old Blogger one. Unfortunately Blogger’s changes make their interface worse, and IMO gmail was typical of all webmail in that it sucked unless you used it with a client.

  4. May 19, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    I am in no way an MS fanboi ey are as guilt as anyone of the ‘it isn’t broke but we’ll fix it anyway’ mentality, after al w ehave ot protect our phoney baloney jobs. but I’m on Blogger , but I use Windows Live Writer , to compose, edit and publish posts it’s WYSIWYG (resize photo etc) and stay away from the Blogger interface as much as possible.

    The only drawback is you can’t schedule posts , if you upload as a ‘Draft’ to Blogger and then go in to schedule it, it fucks up all your formatting, removing line breaks etc.

  5. May 20, 2012 at 12:34 am

    Can’t say that I’ve had any problems with WordPress, but then I use an offline composer for creating posts. I also switched to chrome a few months back.

  6. May 20, 2012 at 6:33 am

    Lads, it seems to be universal. LR – that’s the way to go but Chrome doesn’t work for me. Sunny uplands indeed – friggin quagmire.

  7. May 20, 2012 at 8:17 am

    Never ever had a problem with blogger other than its anti-spam, I even use it to compose my posts here, it’s just a tad simpler and at least spaces the line breaks the way I want them rather than having to slope into wordpress’ html editor.
    Nor have I ever had a problem with blogger and firefox for that matter in all its incarnations.
    Perhaps it’s just horses for courses.

  8. May 20, 2012 at 11:57 am

    General release is the new beta. Fuck getting it right when you can just patch it later. 🙄

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