Moral Authority?

July 27, 2012 6 Comments
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In the past I’ve had the occasional go at the hierarchy of the Christian Church, not normally at Christians themselves, whom I nowadays tend to see as an oppressed minority. Yet when it comes to moral authority, I do believe that the church when it speaks upon what God intends, speaks with a far more authoritative voice than say politicians and pressure groups who want it to ‘change’ its rules.

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David Cameron yesterday promised that gay marriage will be legalised by 2015, as he compared Church opposition with Conservatives who once ‘locked out’ homosexuals from the party.
The Prime Minister also paid tribute to Tony Blair for paving the way by introducing civil partnerships.
In remarks that will concern some Tory traditionalists, he said: ‘I am absolutely determined that this Coalition government will follow in that tradition by legislating for gay marriage in this Parliament.’
Praising the institution of marriage, he added: ‘It’s something I feel passionately about and I think if it’s good enough for straight people like me, it’s good enough for everybody and that’s why we should have gay marriage and we will.’
Mr Cameron, who was speaking at a Number 10 reception for members of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender community, has promised his MPs a free vote on the issue.
But the Lib Dems will be whipped to vote in favour of it.

Now the Church has several scriptures with regard to homosexuality and its response these days tends to be rather humanitarian with regards to something that God himself doesn’t approve of. However in the case of ‘marriage’ the church is on very firm footing, ‘marriage’ is an institution between a man and a woman in Gods sight in order to produce and nurture children into the world. It’s not something the church is going to change and it would require a re-write of the Bible to do it. Because if Churches are forced to marry gay couples then it means that the church is put in the position of approving sin. At the moment the current policy is about as good as it gets, love the sinner, hate the sin, which means gays are accepted into the church, but are expected like all Christians to do their best to live as God wants. Not that I’m saying Christians are perfect, I’ve no doubt that we could bring up several thousand examples of Christians acting in very unchristian ways. Yet when Cameron promises legalisation of gay marriage, he’s setting himself against a very basic biblical principle and it’s not something Christianity is going to give way on, nor indeed Judaism or Islam. It does not matter what the LGBT community want either, again I believe the religious card should trump theirs it’s not like they haven’t got equivalent equality via civil partnerships anyway. But no, what they want is for the Churches to marry them (same as hetero’s) in the sight of God on Holy ground and in this instance I believe that the Churches have right on their side. (or at least a written rule book)

So when it comes to Moral Authority, in this instance I’m going to side with the Church, I have no axe to grind with the LGBT community, other than perhaps their militancy in wanting everything their own way. But when it comes to politicians trying to force the religious community to do something which is expressly forbidden in their scriptures then I have to side at least this time with the Church.

6 Responses to Moral Authority?

  1. ivan
    July 27, 2012 at 9:26 am

    I note that iDave hasn’t the balls to even suggest that this would apply to Muslims because he knows he would get a good kicking. Likewise, if he applies it to just Christian churches then they would have a very good case for getting it thrown out under discrimination law.

  2. David A. Evans
    July 27, 2012 at 11:27 am

    With you both on this one.

    I’m not a Christian but it’s their rule book. That LGBT want this tells me something about them too. They’re not Christians either as they want to rewrite the book of God. Yes I know, our resident atheists will say it was written by men anyway, that’s not the point, in the faith , it’s the book of God.

    DaveE.

  3. July 27, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    So, his MPs will get a free vote on this but he has already ‘promised that gay marriage will be legalised by 2015′…

    That is how democracy works these days. :roll:

    Nobody voted for it, hardly anybody voted for him yet he has decided it will happen. :x

  4. graham wood
    July 27, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    QM. Very good comment. Leaving aside for a moment any pros or cons re SSM as an issue, it is the sheer arrogance of the ‘heir to Blair’ that enrages many people about him.
    According to his statement and as Barman points out – “So, his MPs will get a free vote on this but he has already ‘promised that gay marriage will be legalised by 2015′”.
    Indeed so. This shows how he denies democracy even within his own party in saying “that is why……and we will”. How is that consistent with a free vote in parliament?
    The man is mentally, morally, and politically incoherent and he is not fit to lead any political party.

  5. Furor Teutonicus
    July 28, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    XX it’s not something Christianity is going to give way on, nor indeed Judaism or Islam.XX

    Which brings up an interesting pount. Why HAVE these two groups, one of which is not normally known to keep it’s gob shut, so quiet on this?

    Couldn’t be, that in the interests of “racial harmony”, THEY have been quietly given a dispensation, could it?

  6. July 28, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    I rather suspect that we are seeing the usual ‘lying by mental reservation’ trick. I rather suspect that Cameron was just pleasing his audience. I suspect that he means ‘civil ceremonies’ – registry office ‘marriages. Such a plan would be easy to implement. You just need to take the words ‘male/female’ out and replace them with ‘person’.

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