Bansturbation

August 13, 2012 14 Comments
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I’m not quite sure just what it is that makes people want to dress up in Nazi uniforms, other than the fact that they look way cooler than the rest of the WW2 regalia of the allies and others. I think it might have to do with the fact that they were designed by Hugo Boss whereas the rest all look like they were designed by the committee that designed the camel.

Still I do understand why certain Jewish groups would get upset when people do, though I don’t believe they should attempt to stop it, merely avoid it. However I’m at a loss as to why anyone else would object, though naturally there are elements on the left who object to anything…

Mail.

War enthusiasts cause outrage after parading through streets in Nazi uniforms and flying swastika flags from their cars

  • The incident happened at the Yanks festival in Uppermill near Manchester
  • War enthusiasts donned Nazi uniforms and drove through in cars with Nazi flags attached
  • Jewish and anti-fascism groups brand it offensive

A row has broken out after war enthusiasts took to the streets in Nazi uniforms and flying swastikas from their cars.
Jewish leaders and anti-fascism campaigners have berated festival-goers near Saddleworth, Greater Manchester, who went through the centre of the village of Uppermill proudly carrying the Nazi symbol.
Hundreds attended the Yanks festival last weekend, with many thrilled to dress up and re-create the 1940s for a few days.

But organisers say they cannot stop people wearing Nazi insignia on a public street and insist their own strict code of conduct bans them.
Although they said anyone spotted with anything Nazi-related trying to get into their event at Saddleworth School was asked to remove it.
But campaign group Unite Against Fascism called for the public to protest and said it was unacceptable.

Now, first off people ought to realise that there were two sides to WW2 (and any number of alliances) and that pretending the opposing side doesn’t exist is just a tad silly, that includes all aspects of the opposing side too.

Also no-one is making the Jewish groups actually go there and witness the event, which is simply a historical re-enactment on a grand scale.

As for Unite Against Fascism, these are the people who would ban free speech, freedom of expression, frequently turn out when various groups whom they don’t approve of legally protest and attempt to violently prevent this. So when looking at the UAF and comparing it to fascism, you’d be wondering just who exactly the fascists are, not that easy to tell them apart.

To most people, this is just a bit of fun, yes they realise just how terrible the Nazi’s were, however seeing some people wandering around in Nazi uniforms is not going to turn them into Nazi’s, no matter how hard the idiots on the left believe it might. I rather suspect that this is simply something that those groups who hate any form of freedom of expression love as it gives them a bit of free publicity.

A lot of people particularly those of an authoritarian bent seem to forget that freedom if it means anything should allow for views and opinions opposed to your own, including historical ones.

 

14 Responses to Bansturbation

  1. August 13, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    UAF has form. A bad lot altogether.

  2. ivan
    August 13, 2012 at 3:55 pm

    I thought UAF stood for Unite All Fascists a group that iDave endorses.

  3. Mudplugger
    August 13, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Were Ed Balls and Prince Harry in the parade too ? Both known to favour uniforms from that side of the conflict – it’s about showing balance, obviously.

  4. August 14, 2012 at 3:35 am

    A thoughtful post. I notice that lefties don’t mind showing serial killer Che Guevara on their t-shirts.

  5. Furor Teutonicus
    August 14, 2012 at 5:17 am

    What REALLY upsets the UAF, is that the nazis were NOT fascist, rather SOCIALISTS, just like the UAF, in fact.

  6. Greg Tingey
    August 14, 2012 at 8:07 am

    Furor
    I’ve corrected you on this before, please stop it.
    The Nazis & the commies were (are) extreme authoritarians, otherwise they were/are opposites, OK?

    However, I always, without fail, every single time, get a wonderful rise out of any idiot who wears a hammer-&-sickle badge (Che did actually have a valid cause – the appalling oppression and torture, & murder & rape of poor people in S America …) but the latter, well, I always ask them – “Ssince you are wearing that, which is equivalent to wearing a swastika in public, why …”
    I don’t usually het past that, because they go off pop, most satisfactorily, and start screaming that “they aren’t Stalinist” as if the communist religion was only the Stalin sect, and not all the other, equally bad forms of that irrational belief.
    Great fun!

    • Furor Teutonicus
      August 14, 2012 at 2:26 pm

      They call themselves “socialist” they are fucking SOCIALIST. End fucking OF!

      • Greg Tingey
        August 14, 2012 at 5:19 pm

        Do grow up & learn some history.
        “Socialism” is a wide-spectrum political mpvement, like “conservatism”.
        Communism is a RELIGION – there is a cse to be made ofr Nazism to be one, too … but not here.

        • August 14, 2012 at 6:06 pm

          It matters little, socialism and communism are both authoritarian systems seeking to use the power of the state to keep the masses in line. neither are to be trusted and are very religious like in outlook as they seek to place the state/party as the fount of everything rather than God.

  7. cuffleyburgers
    August 14, 2012 at 9:15 am

    “To most people, this is just a bit of fun, yes they realise just how terrible the Nazi’s were” – actually I suspect that a lot of the people who wear these uniforms actuallly don’t think terribly hard about how fucking terrible the nazis were.

    Still that is not a justification for banning them, the fact is that just as the devil has the best tunes (generally) the nazi’s had by far the most splendid brand recognition in history.

    It is understandable that students find them attrative – not only are they demonised in school by earnest young cultural marxists throughout the poor bairn’s school days, they look damn great – a double whammy.

    The bansturbators are so stupid they don’t realise that banning them just makes them more attractive.

    @ G Tingey – I don’t really follow you, apart from the fact that Nazi Germany was more effectively run than communist USSR (ie the trains ran on time and there was food and power, due more to the prussian cultural legacy than the nazis, as their time in power lasted longer and longer things worked less and less well) to any poor fucker who lived there there would be precious little difference

    • Furor Teutonicus
      August 14, 2012 at 2:28 pm

      XX “To most people, this is just a bit of fun, yes they realise just how terrible the Nazi’s were” – actually I suspect that a lot of the people who wear these uniforms actuallly don’t think terribly hard about how fucking terrible the nazis were.XX

      I can assure you, that MOST re-enactors are ACCUTELY aware of the history of the period they portray.

  8. Jim Hook
    August 14, 2012 at 11:32 am

    The UAF are utter morons – why?
    Because they protest about everything other than fascism – the merging of state and corporate powers = fascism.

    Our current government is fascist in nature, so was the last one!!!

    • August 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm

      Yup, that’s right, Jim.

  9. August 14, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    Murphy’s Fifth Military Law: The army with the smartest dress uniform will lose.

    ;-)

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