And these three are the heroines who will lift Russia from its oppression and back on the path to nobility?

My Russian friend who wrote:

Most people in Russia suggest they girls should have receive 7 years at least… This band is too dirty. West knows nothing about them. One of them being on the 9-th month of pregnancy participated in a so called art-performance.

… has sent the full version of the event with the 9 month pregnant member of Pussy Riot, from a young person’s forum in Russia. That stunt was not the current one in the church but an earlier one about saving the bears and it was in a natural history museum hall. Remembering that this is my translation from the Russian, the journalist wrote things like:

I also was not clear why they were all arranged in the hall of the museum, including stuffed animals, pictures of some intestines, and other viscera. “Is that the way to protect the animals?” – I thought. All participants in this orgy are in a strange trance. Their eyes were completely irresponsible.

First Pussy Riot and then more and more people, middle-aged and uglier appeared and it was basically gangbang porn in public. They were all shouting things like “save the bear” throughout it.

Over here many male readers, I’d wager, might even wish they’d seen it, maybe even have had an invite to get into the young Pussy Riot three among the dozen or so participants. On the forum, there were over 2200 comments, mainly from the young whom you’d expect to be tolerant – well, it’s not so bad, a bit misguided but fun etc.

About a third of those comments – and it took some translating because there was much street jargon – were certainly tolerant – what’s the big deal, while laughing at the three as idiots. The journo himself put in many comments, justifying his hypocrisy in filming it all and posting on it with close ups of the whole show, including the pregnat Pussy rioter being shared around.

Avatar of one of the forum users

These were the typical comments from the majority:

# … and pass the bill on which any artistic action must obtain permission from City Hall. Better yet, put them all at once far away over the hill. Let [them] rot in their own filthy state.

# Art event? Of course! Boring? You bet! I would add: vulgar, vile and unaesthetic, like all modern art. So you better …write here [to] the competent authorities.

# The number of people with mental health problems in Russia is growing every year. Already today there were about 3 million people who have mental problems. The head of the psychological laboratory of the Moscow regional center of social forensic psychiatry, Victor Guldan says: “In the former Soviet Union worked control system of mentally ill people. Perhaps in some cases and violated human rights, but nevertheless, due to mental hospital in time to provide the necessary people assistance.”

# The degenerates from the staff of the museum, who, by authorizing a “high political art”, did not think about the kids out there who might be [can't translate the next bit but think it means watching or "who need real support"]

# Typical campaign to discredit the opposition to mark the upcoming March of Dissenters March 3. It was already such rally called dissent. This was done by the same people. State organizations such as the FSB is almost always work the same scheme.

That’s interesting because I’ve already surmised that Pussy Riot may have been a Putin thing to discredit the liberals, knowing such vileness would turn off most of Russia.

# Author, do you lack the ability [of] minimal logical thinking to understand that the action is not in favor of some sort of bears, an act before the elections Medvedev? It just did not conform to normal political protest … why these people call themselves “artists” is unclear. Sex in public is just as little to do with art as just sex in the bedroom, or somewhere else. But the fact that all modern art (including Kulik) – complete shit, which has long lost the right to be called art, should be clear to everyone.

By the way, this event was planned [in] a very ambitious way to have at least an invitation [for] my girlfriend [to come to it].

# Ebicheski-magic-cabalistic event in support of Medvedev people masquerading as the Slavs, a kind of twisted all)))

# These muzzle-train [don't quite get that one] and their bodies simply disgusting! Inhumans! What to say? And the author – their own! Decent people at least understand that society does not accept this distribution [not sure what that means]. And the author – theirs is crap – particularly sorry for [her] being pregnant – her stirilizovat [sterilization is] necessary – these children should not be!

[Meaning her having children as a result of such events is not on. Pussy Riot do their sex on stage - how they get away with it, except through complicit authorities, is intriguing, maybe it's voyeurism.]

# Feeling of disgust. Well this is for the people! And bad people catch the buzz! Destroying reptiles necessary for art [think this means they destroyed reptiles and put them over her naked body and photographed her - I saw the pics of them crawling over her and then they were killed], and then infect others. Intercourse with the dead! Who needs this degenerative squalour? [Translation is difficult here] Degenerates? And these degenerates [will] create a republic – all miserable there! Human faeces they are! If we have the men [we] do not want to dirty their [think it means tadgers] in these individuals [meaning those girls]!

# And you think, who are these people? Normal or what? Unfortunately, in the hands of [the mentally ill] – the media, money, resources, etc. Sick – very active, active healthy but sick! Sick world and captured! Example on your site – you should not do this! Because, if you learn of [such] crap – so it’s a normal person who would hide [not join in with a pregnant woman]! And you spread [this] sh*t! [It's having a go at the journo here] Stuck out there with these beasts, sniffing their vile discharges, looking into their filthy faces [meaning body hygiene here] – who are you then?

There were many more like that but the translating’s exhausted me. I think you get the idea. Again – returning to Bruce Charlton – we’ve been inured against horror at these things, we almost find them clever and certainly nothing to be upset over but sick Britain is not Russia. Over here, we praise dirtbags like Tracy Emin who is a quite vile specimen – I’ve seen her twat in a picture of herself she released and wish I never had – and she’s some official art authority for the UK [?], the Mail celebrates skanks in the right column – this is our culture now.

Thinking now about what she’s done?

Russian criminal youth is now trying to catch up with the west. These things have little to do with Putin or Medvedev or anything else worth the effort protesting about. It’s about a rent-a-cause excuse to indulge in something and cover it with a noble cause to excuse it.

As one of the Russians commented – there is always a percentage of sickos in any society. What distinguishes Pussy Riot from any other sickos is that they have had maximum worldwide publicity, under the guise of being anti-Putin.

The whole libertarian movement seem to be behind them.  Witness Longrider’s oh so tolerant post before this one, not supporting porn but in supporting freedom to do anything, in effect supporting it.  I left a comment about minimum standards of ethics and public decency, generally agreed.

Are people not allowed by libertarians to want certain minimum standards to be the norm.   There’ll always be bohemians, they’ll always be a minority unless there is a complete falling away, as there was in between wars Berlin and Paris and the result was degradation and oppression – precisely what the libertarian would wish not to happen.

There’s such a tilting at windmills here, particularly among the former leftist libertarians.   Am I completely alone in speaking of minimum standards of ethics and public decency?

Finally, I have one question – are these three the heroines who will lift Russia from its oppression and back on the path to nobility?

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UPDATE Through from Russia at midday today. Apparently the gay community in particular are disseminating this photo as a symbol.  My friend writes:

Of course journalist should be taken to jail as well. As well as journalists who were making videos of chopping of the Crest in Ukrain.

It shows, that journalist are not a human, since they have no conscience. And they help to spread anti-social behaviour.

Now I reproduce that, not to support it but to show the depth of feeling which came through in those comments above and also in my friend. I think you’re getting to see how this has affected Russia.

Now I wish to mention something. I’ve posted a few times on Nimrod and Semiramis – the prostitute principle as the Madonna and was met with eyes to the ceiling. Here it is in this photo, exactly the same motif as in Notre Dame during the French Revolution – the cult of the prostitute. Jump to today and Paris Hilton, Jordan and all the others in the Femail section of the Mail.

I’m not talking through my backside here – these people are adopting and using this symbolism. This girl in the photo was one of those doing the gangbang and the dissemination across Russia of such a picture has a clear message to youth to help break society down.

And the result, if they succeed, will be lawlessness and consequent oppression and loss of freedom for the ordinary person.