Remember, manifesto promises are not subject to legitimate expectations…

A few years ago a guy called Stuart Bower took the Labour Party (Gordon Brown) to court over their refusal to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, he lost as the court stated that “Manifesto promises are not subject to legitimate expectation

Essentially the court was telling us that political parties can put what the hell they like in a manifesto and then ignore it once voted into power…

Now we have Cameron threatening promising hinting that he might, just might be considering allowing a referendum on the EU after the 2015 elections…

BBC.

David Cameron has given his clearest hint yet that he will back a referendum on Britain’s relationship with the EU if the Tories win the next election.
He said there will be opportunities for the British people to give “fresh consent” to the UK’s EU membership.
Closer economic ties between eurozone countries “will give us opportunities for changing our relationship with Europe”, he said.
However, he added he thought it was not in Britain’s interest to leave the EU.
The prime minister has faced calls to back an in/out referendum from his own MPs, 81 of whom rebelled against the party line last year to vote for a referendum.
Some Conservative MPs fear the UK Independence Party – which has long campaigned for the UK to leave the EU and for the public to have their say in a referendum – could lose the party seats at the next general election if Mr Cameron does not take a more Eurosceptic stance.

The clues are all there of course, no mention of an in or out choice, the long standing Cameron claim that it’s in our best interests to remain in and the ongoing EUphile Tory fear that UKIP might cost them seats.

The biggest danger of course is that Cameron will not say what the question will be before the election, thus giving an impression that it will be an in or out vote. Sadly this is extremely unlikely unless UKIP actually get enough seats to form a coalition with the Tories (or any other party promising a referendum) the choice it appears Cameron favours will be more integration vs withdrawing to an economic only partnership. One that would leave the UK isolated from a core group and unable to influence their decisions. A sort of lose/lose option. The one most people want is an in/out option and there is no way in hell Cameron, Milliband, Clegg or indeed their masters in the EU will allow this, mostly owing to the fact that the UK is still a net contributor to that corrupt edifice.

In the end all this is for Cameron is an electioneering stunt, there’s no way we’ll be allowed a proper vote, this is simply to stop Tories haemorrhaging away to UKIP with their votes…

11 comments for “Remember, manifesto promises are not subject to legitimate expectations…

  1. September 29, 2012 at 3:16 am

    I look forward to massive erosion of the LibLabCon vote, not just from UKIP but from all sides, followed by public withdrawal from the alien State. Revolution is nigh.

    • Humph
      September 29, 2012 at 7:46 am

      Yes and I wish that someone would knock on my door this morning to give me the keys to a Bugatti Veyron containing a hundred million quid and a naked Alessandra Ambrosio. Sadly, that’s never going to happen either.

    • Single Acts of Tyranny
      September 29, 2012 at 8:29 am

      You raise a most interesting point, worthy of a full post.

    • Den
      September 29, 2012 at 8:56 am

      I agree with your desire for massive change but see no sign of it in the High Street. The majority of people I know have given up on politics and just keep trying to live their lives under trying conditions. The masses, on the other hand, seem to accept the ‘bread and circuses’ thrown their way. The political class is firmly in the saddle and I see no way around them at present.

      I wonder if there might eventually be a military coup? Perhaps in the States before here?

      • Bunny
        September 29, 2012 at 9:22 am

        Den, I tend to agree with you on the ‘bread and circuses’ argument, as the Left to call it false conciousness. Perhaps a re-working of the health and benefit systems to a European insurance based system and have people responsible for their own actions might be a first. We are in the ridiculous situation of being taxed for services we have to top up with private insurance, ie health and pensions.

        I hope that there isn’t a revolution but a change in attitudes and we can make the political class irrelevent.

      • Greg Tingey
        September 29, 2012 at 10:08 am

        Which means that when they do wake up..
        1] It is going to be deperate
        2} It is going to be very nasty

      • Single Acts of Tyranny
        September 29, 2012 at 6:22 pm

        I can’t think of many revolutions that provided a better government afterwards, but quite a few that offered worse treatment.

        I hope this is not where change comes from.

  2. Greg Tingey
    September 29, 2012 at 10:07 am

    HE IS LYING of course.

    Now what do we do?

  3. SteveW
    September 29, 2012 at 10:57 am

    “…there will be opportunities for the British people to give “fresh consent” to the UK’s EU membership…”

    That doesn’t even sound like an in/out vote. No surprises there then.

  4. Furor Teutonicus
    September 29, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    XX allowing a referendum on the EU after the 2015 elections… XX

    Havent we been here before?

    Are the Brits going to fall for the lies of this queer little wanker, like they have for all the othetr queer little wankers before them?

    Or have they REALLY the attention span of a gold fish?

  5. Mudplugger
    September 29, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Those who were around for the 1975 ‘EEC Membership Confirmation’ Referendum will recall the subtle PR machine brought into play to ensure the ‘correct’ result.

    Largely funded by the CIA (in those Cold War day, Uncle Sam felt the need to have their UK client-state inside the EEC Tent to inhibit the spread of Leftieness), it consisted of all the ‘solid respectable’ voices on the Yes side and a coalition of those perceived or promoted as unbalanced nutters on the No side. Needless to say, two-thirds of the UK voters fell for it and obediently voted Yes, naively thinking they were voting only for a free-trade area.

    In these days of more mature and sophisticated spin, what makes anyone think a similar mind-setting PR job won’t be done again ? The three stooges of Cameron, Clegg and Miliband are probably getting together and working on it already, just in case. Loyalty to their ultimate EUSSR paymasters trumps any trivial political differences.

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