Juncker’s Marxist solution for monetary union

January 10, 2013 9 Comments
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Juncker cites Marx in his emergency proposal to enforce union:

Juncker cita Marx «Disoccupazione ci sta schiacciando subito salario minino per tutta l’area Euro»

According to Juncker:

“We must rediscover the social dimension of economic and monetary union, with measures such as the minimum wage in all countries of the euro zone, otherwise we lose credibility and approval of the working class, in the words of Marx.”

So the invitation to governments not to think that the crisis to an end. “The times we live in are hard-says-we must not give the public the impression that the worst is behind us because there are still things to do very difficult.”

Out pops the cloven hoof.

9 Responses to Juncker’s Marxist solution for monetary union

  1. Greg Tingey
    January 10, 2013 at 11:51 am

    Presumably the credibility & approval of the 0.1% matters as well?

    PLEASE NOTE the US guvmint’s public “push” to try to ensure that “we” (the UK) stay inside the EU, as mentioned on the Beeb this morning …..
    What is one to make of that?

    No, in spite of using Marx’s language, I suspect Juncker & his cronies are much more likely to support the corporate state as demonstrated in 1930′s Europe are they not?

    • January 10, 2013 at 1:18 pm

      That’s right – Marxism, as the italian paper noted. It’s called many names – socialism, Marxism, communism, national socialism – comes to the same thing in the end.

      • January 10, 2013 at 1:41 pm

        and no matter what you call it, it will be Authoritarian.

        You will do as you are told, you will not be asked.

      • Greg Tingey
        January 10, 2013 at 6:16 pm

        Oh dear
        Marxism & Nazism are extreme autocracies, & that they have in common, otherwise, they are opposite, one being left, the other right-extremes.

        Do wake up – politics is a plane, not a line, OK?

        • January 10, 2013 at 9:45 pm

          …and there’s another one who thinks Nazism is right wing. Its socialism, National Socialism, as far left as Stalin would permit without it being communist, but then everything was to the right of Stalin.

          • January 11, 2013 at 8:30 am

            That’s right, Ian but some people are so far into the narrative they can’t see it. It comes down to Statism in the end but the roots of Statism are Marxism/socialism, i.e. the individual is not allowed to make his own way without central planning.

  2. Greg Tingey
    January 11, 2013 at 8:23 am

    Just because it called itself “socialist” doesn’t mean it was.
    Any more than calling yourself “democratic” means that you are or were – the old, unlamented DDR being the classic case.
    Please grow up.

    Actually, there were some moderate-semi-socialist (along with some extreme racial views) in one wing of the early Nazi party … but they were exterminated: 30/06 -> 02/07/1934.
    All pretences at any form of socialsim were dropped thereafter.

    • January 11, 2013 at 8:32 am

      Greg, as explained above, they are the same thing in effect because both are Statist. Ideological niceties between them cut no ice with the oppressed citizen – both oppress.

  3. Greg Tingey
    January 12, 2013 at 10:05 am

    JH
    Almost
    Agree to disagree on that one.
    You ARE aware of the political “plane” map?
    x-axis is left & right, y-axis is authoritarian (usually shown at top) & libertarian.
    On that map, Stalin is near the top left, only exceeded by Kim Il-Sung, and Adolf is top right.
    The quite mad Ayn Rand is shown bottom right …..

    On the original topic, has anyone else noted this piece?
    link to guardian.co.uk
    Very informative & hat-tip to Raedwald for it.

    Even some in the Grauniad are befginning to wonder, it seems ….

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