Time You Changed Your Interpretation, Then…

From the Danish food ministry this is not great timing. Less than two weeks after the world was shocked by the slaughter of Marius the giraffe, halal and shechita slaughter – normal practices for millions of Muslims and Jews – have been effectively banned in Denmark.

Roll on the UK following this example…

In most European countries, including the UK, the slaughter of an animal is considered humane only if it is stunned before having its throat cut. Muslim and Jewish rules, however, require an animal to be fully alive, healthy, and intact before being killed, and this is often interpreted to mean it must be conscious.

So change the interpretation. Haven’t you adapted other ‘fixed’ rules to take account of modern inventions?

12 comments for “Time You Changed Your Interpretation, Then…

  1. Ed P
    March 8, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    It’s disgusting and outrageous that our children are unwittingly being fed this meat from terrified animals killed in a barbaric way.

    (School meals are now routinely made from halal if the school caters to even a small number of muslim pupils.)

    As the animal’s adrenaline levels will be elevated from fear at the moment of death, there are also significant health considerations.

  2. Ed P
    March 8, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    This digusting practice is now widespread in school meals. If there’s only a few (innocent children of) muslims in a school, the meals will contain halal meat, “to avoid offending the touchy brigade”. Many parents would be horrified to find out what their little darlings are consuming. But it’s not just the moral issue: animals killed when terrified will have high levels of adrenaline in their blood – this has implications for the long-term health of the children.

  3. Furor Teutonicus
    March 8, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    One 100% SURE way to avoid sand-Kanake slaughter!

    EAT PORK!!

    • Ed P
      March 8, 2014 at 6:58 pm

      Fine for you and me, but schoolchildren have to eat what they’re given.

      So their better moral-poison-avoidance option is to say they are vegetarian, even if it’s untrue.

  4. john in cheshire
    March 8, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    I spent some time in an abattoir and have seen kosher slaughter first hand. I imagine the muslim version is very similar. It is to say the least, barbaric and should be banned. But there is another aspect, particularly for muslim killed animals. They are slaughtered while muslim prayers are being said over it. If I recall correctly, we Christians should not eat anything that has been made a sacrifice; and that is precisely what is happening with halal meat.

    • Bob
      March 8, 2014 at 11:09 pm

      You make a very good point at the end. I wonder what the CofE view is?

      • March 12, 2014 at 1:00 pm

        Bob, I checked just now and there doesn’t seem to be an official position on it.

        If we eat it unknowingly, it’s not a sin but we should avoid it if we know it is being served.

        That said, some C of E school canteens serve it:

        http://www.st-james.bolton.sch.uk/New-Starters/School-Canteen/

        Others are careful to make provisions to serve non-Halal meat:

        http://www.christian.org.uk/news/you-dont-have-to-eat-halal-meat-c-of-e-schools-told/

        Incidentally, Sikhs and Hindus are also forbidden from eating Halal meat.

        Better labelling is needed now, but that would really light the touch paper. Much of what is on offer is Halal, especially lamb and chicken. I wrote about this a few years ago (more on my Recipes / Health page under ‘Halal’). The URL below has a number of links to other articles and statements:

        http://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2010/09/26/uk-halal-by-stealth/

        This also means that faithful Christians should stay out of curry houses and scrutinise takeaway menus (look for the Halal symbol). I haven’t eaten curry out since July 6, 2005, a day before the London bombing. Nor do I eat takeaway meals.

  5. Ed P
    March 8, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    Who mentioned Elton?

  6. Bob
    March 8, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    In reply to ‘john in cheshire’ – “If I recall correctly, we Christians should not eat anything that has been made a sacrifice; and that is precisely what is happening with halal meat.”

    That’s a very interesting point. Wonder what the CofE has to say on the matter?

  7. Lynne at Counting Cats
    March 9, 2014 at 12:46 am

    Other news – Don’t like halal? Get Mum to pack your lunch and find yourself excluded…

  8. March 9, 2014 at 1:24 am

    How we kill animals for food will always excite comment and approbation. There is no ‘nice’ way to do it and we never hear voice-overs in David Attenborough documentaries pretending to be lions discussing whether or not to stop digging claws into hind quarters when killing Gnus. In the main, humans are humane. You cannot convince me that a steer in the slaughterhouse where they stun before killing will wander in fat, dumb and happy with no nagging doubts about what it is about. He/she will smell death.

    Not that I am excusing Halal methods. But let us not conflate the cultural practices of the Islamists taking over, with a concern for animal welfare.

    • March 12, 2014 at 1:14 pm

      Agreed. I have watched several documentaries about abbatoirs, including a Kosher one.

      The Jewish man who was the slaughterer said that Kosher law states the knife must be really sharp. Anyone who handles knives will know it is possible to cut oneself with a highly sharpened knife and not feel a thing. It’s only when one feels or sees the blood that one notices the wound.

      The Kosher slaughterer also said that the prescribed cuts in the neck must be done extremely quickly and accurately. He added that he took much care in what he did and that it was not done with a thirst for blood as much as it was keeping Mosaic law. He also mentioned his responsibility to care for God’s creation as stated in Genesis. There are not many Jewish men who wish to slaughter animals, incidentally.

      By contrast, there used to be a YouTube video of young Muslim men who were lining up hoping a Halal abbatoir would accept them as slaughterers. In the short interviews, most of them said they looked forward to it. I have also read that some Halal abbatoirs are not too careful about the sharpness of the knives used. A dull knife will cause the animal intense and prolonged pain, resulting in tough meat because of the muscle tension.

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