Is nonconformity and freethinking a mental illness?

March 13, 2014 14 Comments
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This little gem via IPJ:

Is nonconformity and freethinking a mental illness? According to the newest addition of the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), it certainly is. The manual identifies a new mental illness called “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD.

Defined as an “ongoing pattern of disobedient, hostile and defiant behavior,” symptoms include questioning authority, negativity, defiance, argumentativeness, and being easily annoyed.

http://themindunleashed.org/2013/11/nonconformity-and-freethinking-now.html

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14 Responses to Is nonconformity and freethinking a mental illness?

  1. Lynne at Counting Cats
    March 13, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    Whereas being an obedient, friendly, non-questioning drone is mental stability on steroids? Are the cretins pushing this crap effing insane?

  2. March 13, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    Not so new, JH; a post I did back in September 2010 includes this quote from Wikipedia:

    ODD children may present as negative, defiant, unable to take “no” for an answer, deliberately annoying others, easily annoyed themselves, or blaming others for all that goes wrong.

    I shouldn’t be at all surprised to learn that a high proportion of sensible and right-thinking bloggers demonstrated those same characteristics earlier in life when confronted with the idiocies of the educational system.

  3. March 13, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    As with almost everything, it is a matter of degree. Dis-ease is disease.

    The DSM is an Insurance ‘approval’ manual. It suffers from what Freud called ‘Inflation’.

    • March 14, 2014 at 12:24 am

      Except that many Americans find that their insurance does not reimburse mental health conditions. (Not sure what it’s like in Australia, perhaps you can elaborate based on what you read in the press.)

      Not surprising, given that so many children and adults are ‘diagnosed’ with them.

      This will bite a few in the tail — psychiatrists and ‘sufferers’.

      I saw an article the other day which said that dyslexia isn’t really a disorder. I didn’t read the article, but the backtrack on this condition is interesting to see when mental health ailments are on the rise.

      • dfordoom
        March 14, 2014 at 12:49 am

        “I saw an article the other day which said that dyslexia isn’t really a disorder.”

        ADHD has also been recently exposed as a fraud.

      • Mudplugger
        March 14, 2014 at 8:07 pm

        Follow the money…….
        Most ‘diagnoses’ such as dyslexia, ADHD and other ‘special needs’ become the key to unlocking cash, particularly for schools etc.
        There is a vested interest in achieving as many ‘diagnoses’ as possible in order to access as much cash as possible, with the added benefit that a higher than average proportion of such ‘diagnoses’ in the group can be used as cover for poor relative performance in league tables.
        It’s a win/win – apart from the child of course, who gets a label for life, often unwarranted, but hey, who cares about the kid in this system ?

  4. JD
    March 13, 2014 at 11:19 pm

    “ODD children may present as negative, defiant, unable to take “no” for an answer, deliberately annoying others, easily annoyed themselves, or blaming others for all that goes wrong.”

    From that description it would seem that ODD children grow up to be Politicians (or journalists)

    • March 14, 2014 at 8:14 am

      Many years ago, my University got a state-of-the-art computer which used a detailed psychological profiling test to suggest possible future careers.

      The usual outcome was an A4 sheet containing between twenty and thirty possibilities. When my turn came, however, the machine paused for several minutes before finally spewing out a piece of paper with only two entries: Minister of Religion and Member of Parliament.

      As an atheist with a profound loathing of politicians, the only possible answer was to wait until the internet was invented and start a blog.

      • March 14, 2014 at 12:29 pm

        Surely the term is “asteroidist”, Macheath?

  5. Diesel
    March 14, 2014 at 5:58 am

    ODD didn’t exist when I was a child, but I was diagnosed by a child psychologist as having sociopathic and psychopathic personality traits, and the way I acted towards authority, such as teachers, would have fitted ODD had that been an available diagnosis, so this isn’t really anything new, just a new label.

    I did used to enjoy torturing teachers (verbally, at least) as a child. I now enjoy doing the same to local politicians, council officers, coppers, and other assorted jobsworths :mrgreen:

    • March 14, 2014 at 12:31 pm

      Sort of person, in fact, we need in charge.

  6. Brian, follower of Deornoth
    March 14, 2014 at 7:06 am

    Serbsky Institute, anyone?

    • Furor Teutonicus
      March 15, 2014 at 4:41 am

      DAMN you!

      I was just about to mention the Soviet system, and you beat me to it. :-(

      Get you next time! :-D

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