There are quite a few bloggers in our corner of the sphere, plus Breitbart and now Paul Nuttall [UKIP] writes on the smoky-drinky issue.
When I was a child, wherever we drove, my father insisted the windows were up and he smoked. So yes, I passively smoked and sometime back was diagnosed with bronchitis and there’s a sinus problem too, which I don’t put down to that. My father died of emphyzema and my mother had bronchitis.
These days, I support overturning the smoking ban and am in CAMRA. The pubs and clubs must be saved.
On the other hand, I can’t survive in a pub more than an hour. Even a smoking ban doesn’t help – for some reason, I get an attack and have to get outside fast into the air. Which is not to say I don’t like pubs, I love ’em and a quiet country pub is a joy, though the pub grub has gone off now it’s run by chains.
To my mind, a well-pulled pint has nothing to beat it and British ale is the best in the world . Our cheeses are pretty good too.
The way I get around it is to go during the weekday sometimes, when not many are around and have a pint then. Plus pick-up some ale and wine on the way home. There’s already whisky here.
Another reason I can’t go into a city pub is the noise. The music is so damned loud and the video screen not pleasant. The yoof is screechingly loud and everyone’s shouting at the top of the voice to be heard over it all. It’s shoulder to shoulder and splodgenessabounds.
Pints cost a fortune and altogether, it’s not a pleasant experience for an ageing curmudgeon. Not sure I have the stamina to survive a city pub visit these days.
On the other hand, live music is great and pub bands were always the way to go back when. There’s a post at my place coming up at 6 on some of these. Never was I happier than in North Yorkshire, doing a pub crawl across hill and dale, ending up at a place they had some musos on that evening.
There are market forces, yes and they are forcing pubs out of business, along with the smoking ban. To my mind, there’s a point where market forces need to go to hell and cultural things such as pubs need preserving.
Im happy with the ban but don’t see why separate indoor smoking areas cannot be provided for smokers to enjoy their drinks. With proper ventilation this could make everyone happy.
Because you would burden pubs with even more expense partitioning rooms and installing ventilation systems. Why not simply allow pubs to choose if they want to be smoking or not?
Don’t know what the answer is. I’d personally avoid smoky pubs, not for any moral reason but simply for the physical health – there’s no choice in my case. It wouldn’t even help were there smoking and non-smoking pubs – my mates are all smokers. Wot, am I going to sit alone in a non-smoker, knowing no one?
As I say, I don’t know what the answer is but I don’t think Paul Nuttall’s amendment on cutting the ties that bind help all that much. I do know that I want to see pub life thriving and beer cheap enough for everyone.
Not sure we can teach the yoof now about holding their liquor and not fornicating on the grass – seems to be a bit beyond us now. One town I lived in had enough pubs for all. There was the loud videoscreen pub for yoof, the quiet one-bar affair for the older two-pints man and his wife and a range of eateries between those.
There was choice. So what is actually killing pubs? Smoking ban? Tied house? Cheaper booze in the supermarket?
How can I find a pub I can actually go into, enjoy me pint, not have a sinus attack and not have the wallet emptied?