The failure to see the lack of logic, the hypocrisy

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Many of us speak disparagingly of the things we see and of course, the despicable things done by, say, Brussels, let alone Muslims, until it becomes a broken record and people start to tune out.

This though is not about any of those, it’s about the ordinary, garden variety leftist who could be dressed just as you and I are dressed, can even sound rational in casual conversation, he’s often well spoken and into being fair and tolerant.  Surely these things are fine. It’s quite possible to have a conversation with him on, say, football or Network Rail or good places for holidays.

All that is so, then the public behaviour lets them down every time. Best I provide examples from this evening.

1.  From the Express:

OK, so the left passionately believes that to want immigration controlled for illegals, that equals hate. Fine, that’s how they define it and I’ll not go into it now. On the other side, supporters of Trump are equally as passionate that he stop the demise of the US.  There are so many things wrong, from the Gang of Eight to Amnesty and so on.

So how do they react, how do they behave?  They go onto FB and Twitter and write scathing things, they boo leftists.  That is how they express their “hatred”.

OK, what of the left who eschew hatred, who are dead against haters and the violent?

Left-wing activists ‘throw ROCKS at Trump supporters’ as tensions boil over in Utah

Others waved banners reading “Trump is Hitler” and “Trump makes America hate again” before tearing down a security tent, according to media reports.

So let me get this right – their way of eschewing and opposing violence and hatred is to attack and tear down someone’s tent.  I see.

OK, let’s look at Trump’s own hate actions:

Trump used the event to mock former Presidential candidate and Utah resident Mitt Romney, who is backing Texas senator Ted Cruz.

He mocked. Using words.  A centre-right Trump supporter wrote:

What is it with the lefties, if they are sure of their beliefs why do they need to cause violence against people who disagree with their views. I think the reason they get so violent is fear, fear that people might disagree with them.

How do the left justify their physical violence, as Bill Ayres’s Weathermen did in the 60s?

Just another list of right wing cliches from right wing websites. You sound like a robot stuck on repeat. Are you no longer capable of generating any of your own original ideas & thoughts. Can you not see how radicalised & worn down you have become?  Has somebody been overcharged for an ice cream, don’t tell me one of the lions has escaped? Oh no, you said people are demonstrating. What is wrong with these people getting off their backsides & taking the action speaks louder than words approach.

But they weren’t just “demonstrating, were they?  They were pulling tents down, throwing rocks. Rocks can hurt and even kill. And on what basis is it done? That Trump’s views don’t accord with theirs.

Is there not something disproportionate here?

2.  Breitbart London:

Speaking at the rally, Labour’s Shadow Secretary of State for International Development Diane Abbott told the crowd: “We are rallying against racism; against fascism; against Islamophobia; AND against anti-Semitism.”

They were fist-fighting and intimidating. An observer:

How odd to see the racist ‘Black Lives Matter’ crowd giving the Black Power salute at an ‘Anti-Racist’ rally.

How odd to see those who wrecked Trump’s rally in Chicago in matching Hitler T-shirts. Were any Trump supporters in Hitler garb?  Were any of them rioting?

Another observer:

The saddest thing about the left-wing demonstrators is that under a caliphate, they’d be among the first to either have to convert or be killed.

The left really, honestly believe that if they construct a strawman, vilifying a group of people, e.g. Trump supporters, those against illegal immigration, that that vilification is not vilification, even when hurling rocks, wrecking someone’s Sunday lunch with his family, manhandling him rather than talking.

3. American Thinker:

We’re on the verge of full brownshirt tactics from the left, which ironically loves to call the object of their hatred Nazi-like and Hitlerian. Last night’s Trump rally in normally polite and sedate Salt Lake City saw rampant lawlessness on the part of Trump opponents.

And that’s the word I’ve so far not used in this post – lawlessness. They are outside the law. In civil society, tearing down a security checkpoint would have you in court. Throwing rocks would have you arrested. Or should.

This is a lack of self-control by a large number of people. Were these people physically threatened? Not at all. Yet they perpetrate violence on the strength of an opinion they’ve constructed, an opinion half the nation does not share.

What are they shouting? “Shut it down! Shut it down!”  In other words, stop the things being said at a legally constituted rally. And these weren’t just millennials – there were women and older men there as well.

4.  Washington (CNN)

Dozens of protesters blocked traffic near a Donald Trump event in Arizona on Saturday, while demonstrators marched in New York City to protest the GOP front-runner.

The protesters in Arizona parked vehicles sideways on Shea Boulevard, blocking both lanes of traffic into Fountain Hills, Arizona, where Trump held a rally Saturday afternoon, Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office Deputy Joaquin Enriquez told CNN.

Enriquez described Shea Boulevard as the main artery into the area and the protesters’ actions were causing motorists to drive into oncoming traffic as they tried to get around them. Traffic was backed up for miles due to the blockage.

Um … is that not actually a crime what they were doing?  Were they not all arrested?  it said dozens, not hundreds or thousands, unlike the mob who raped the girls in Cologne.

OK, having spat on conducting the politi

5. CNN again:

Scroll down and there’s this:

A small skirmish erupted when protesters started throwing water bottles at police, who were trying to keep them from impeding traffic. A handful of protesters were pepper-sprayed and some were arrested.

So clearly, political discourse must be via violence and lawlessness according to the left. The right, who disagree with this and say people should be able to have their rallies, even Hillary – they’re haters and Hitlers for saying this.

What perhaps some of us are failing to grasp is that we can’t reason with the left and you know why? They’re like children. They want something, someone else undermines that, the child strikes out physically. The parallels are quite close. This is why we can’t reason with them.

And they have the vote. Frightening, isn’t it?

5 comments for “The failure to see the lack of logic, the hypocrisy

  1. Henry Kaye
    March 19, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    Yes – they are a curse but so are so any of our political leaders and I wonder which group does the most damage?

  2. Graham Wood
    March 19, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    James. Very good comment and needed saying. Yes, it is a repetition of the Brownshirts again. When the ‘left’ run out of arguments or consistently lose them, then so often they resort to intimidation and violence as a substitute.
    As you say in these cases they are nothing more than mobsters and lawbreakers.
    I think that what we call ‘the rule of law’ must include the right to freedom of speech and peaceful debate without fear through intimidation.
    In this respect it is often the police who are partly to blame for not recognising or acting upon such lawlessness, which if continued so inculcates fear that legitimate
    and lawful debate is severely inhibited, if not prevented. Unlawful violence then wins the day, opposition is silenced, and the norms of civilised public discourse is prevented.
    That is the essence of fascism and how it achieves it’s objectives.

  3. Hereward Unbowed.
    March 20, 2016 at 9:10 am

    The Stranger within my gate,
    He may be true or kind,
    But he does not talk my talk–
    I cannot feel his mind.
    I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
    But not the soul behind.

    The men of my own stock,
    They may do ill or well,
    But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
    They are used to the lies I tell;
    And we do not need interpreters
    When we go to buy or sell.

    The Stranger within my gates,
    He may be evil or good,
    But I cannot tell what powers control–
    What reasons sway his mood;
    Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
    Shall repossess his blood.

    The men of my own stock,
    Bitter bad they may be,
    But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
    And see the things I see;
    And whatever I think of them and their likes
    They think of the likes of me.

    This was my father’s belief
    And this is also mine:
    Let the corn be all one sheaf–
    And the grapes be all one vine,
    Ere our children’s teeth are set on edge
    By bitter bread and wine.

    Rudyard Kipling.

    Kipling, saw it pretty much and he wasn’t only speaking of Britain, ask someone who has tried to live in China, India, France or moved abroad to live in most any other part of the world, acceptance is hard won and sometimes never gained.

    Random thoughts, unforetold, very unintended outcomes, the Xfactor generation and fear, always lots to fear.

    First question, if left leaning kids the scum party and Emily Thornberry, Emma Thompson and the luvvies see this country as such an evil capitalist hell and a bad place, why – why is it they should ask themselves – does most of the world want to flock here?

    Some dope named a ‘comedian’ given a platform to rant, on a Socialist rally in London (yesterday) – mouthed something to the effect of “this is not my country, even though my family is from around these here parts, I cannot claim this land, it is not my land to make such claims”.
    Which is fine, provided he’s not given the order of the boot when the new arrivals decide they don’t want his white face spoiling East London, around any longer, because he’s white AND a Kuffar. Because nowhere in the world will be his home – then.

    Now this is where I beg to differ.

    I make no claim to lands in Pakistan nor anywhere in the middle east and I have no desire to live there either, even if I could build a Christian church in downtown Riyadh, I don’t like sand in my every pore and food.

    Then.

    We have a political claque, Lording it in Brussels and in Britain though ‘we the people’ were never asked, a state which trumpets the benefits of coming to this land, Britain – no questions asked and telling them, “you’re all welcome” and not only that, “we’ll even change our laws for you – # how’s that for a whizzy deal – yah?”
    And did they come, not in thousands but in millions and still they pour in daily, weekly, monthly, yearly and still our politicians leave the gates open…..”come one come all!”

    What do we get?

    Not much really, except; towns, schools, hospitals jam packed with foreign tongues and people who are inimical to our ways and culture and some, most taught to hate our culture, indeed our every waking breath.

    We Britons, are being screwed down by a cultural shift imposed on the nation by a bunch of fanatics, a state who will truck no dissent, we used to wonder what it was like living under the cosh of the Communists in Soviet Russia, now we get to find out.
    Told what to do, how high to jump, even how to think – by a claque of ill educated ne’er-do-wells who don’t know which way is up – let alone able to honestly, logically rationalize this social engineering and demographic experiment gone off the fucking dial.

    The utter drivel sent down from on high – the apologia for this demographic out of control time bomb, madness goes on a loop; we’re dying off, pensions, hospitals, we need new blood and at the same time some other liberal economists are telling us that, cybernetics, nano technology is nigh – making the human operative redundant……What is going on? what a paradox it all is and is the power to instill fear, doubt and uncertainty the real policy?

    Meanwhile, cheap labour floods in, the corporate monsters are loving it and margins at an all time high with unit costs so low and goin’ lower and walking about your town becomes a nightmare of stranger danger. Groomed, kids attacked, used, abused for sex, drug peddling taxi drivers speed up and down streets, the police turn a blind eye. they’re far too busy watching facebook and twitterati for hate crims. On Sunday, while the old lady goes off to church, harangued by the local low lifes, out, cleaning their shiny boy racers, frothing expletives in varied southern Asian voices.

    And the useful idiots are marching again, throwing rocks in their inimitable style, closing down debate and hate, hate is all that they are UAF, UKuncut, SWP, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, Sadiq Khan for lucky old London, Corbyn for PM!

    Yet, left wing thugs students running amok..is it their fault? they know not of what they do. 60 years and more, of cultural Marxism, critical theorists indoctrinating students, teachers and permeating the DoE. Poorly educated college trained pedagogues who teach kids to hate their own country, its History, traditions, culture its Christian heritage. Of course, replacing it with that spavined creed of Marxist nihilism, amoral relativism and nebulous concepts, war on wimin, gender battles, green is good, fossil fuels very, very, very bad and wow mass immigration is SOOOOO good for Britain even if we can’t ever get a job, there’s always nanny state as a fall back, even that’s very uncertain……………..

    Furthermore – and if you don’t like it – you lump it anyway and that’s Fascism btw.

    So many wrongs, so many lies, so many ills and was it ever right in the first place? Fathom it, I cannot make much sense of it, what I do know is, Britain is fading to a memory, maybe I don’t blame the kids and maybe, neither left nor right are focused on the real enemy.
    And to those who think they have their hands on the wheels of power….I think that they’ve been locked out of the cab, the runaway train is coming off the tracks – hurtling to a catastrophe which will bring about an end to what was known as Western Civilization.

    If in future….History is recorded – a big if……………. it will ask, was it hubris or just plain old megalomania, Google, Amazon, Facebook, Soros – greed and human stupidity which brought it all down and how big a part did the critical theorists play in it?

    Set to ticking, we are all being wound up, that’s the idea, a fearful population is a cowed population, a renting population is a fearful population, a population with no roots is: a conquered population.

    • Henry Kaye
      March 20, 2016 at 11:35 am

      Hereward, How extraordinary that you should come up with that Kipling verse at this time when I had just spoken to my wife how I felt different about other English people from my feelings about those from foreign climes. I understood, I said, the thought processes of my fellow countrymen and women; we were brought up in the same culture and were shaped by the same influences . I don’t, I said, have the same understanding of those from other lands and, therefore, harbour a perhaps unjustified suspicion of them.
      I agree so much with all of your other comments.

  4. March 20, 2016 at 10:39 am

    Thanks for those.

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