The scurrilous BBC

The BBC is such a scurrilous organization:

US election hacking: Putin ‘sought to help’ Trump

For a start, this agreement in the media that anything between talking marks means it’s opinion, not established truth is not something everyone knows.

This was trumpeted as the main story on the BBC front page and though they’d claim – well, we did run another piece under it about Trump and the CIA falling out, for ‘balance’ [using their technique], there’s little doubt the impression they wanted to convey.

And of course, national intelligence is unimpeachable, isn’t it?

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What makes the headline worse is that of course the rogue elements in intelligence are where the swamp is at its worst. See Operation Cyclone for details.

It was once Hoover and the FBI and it was a brave Nero Wolfe episode which took them on at the time.

Next of course is what does America expect with NATO/the CIA right inside the Ukraine on Russia’s border and up to all their old regional destabilization tricks of a scurrilous and satanic nature? Cue the downed plane for a start. Those rebels were that accurate?

What is Putin meant to do? What did America do when the Russians had missiles in Cuba?

You can argue with that all you like but the point is – it’s not a given truth in the least what the CIA says, especially in the light of the Saddam Hussein debacle.

And finally, society is deeply divided, as you know, between the credulous and the cynical, which plays out in various ways.

9 comments for “The scurrilous BBC

  1. Hereward Unbowed.
    January 7, 2017 at 8:27 am

    Now, where do you start?

    Good grief, the CIA or, the ‘Cousins’ as our lot refer to them [namely MI6] have a long and very mendacious history of meddling in other countries affairs, in most cases all the outcomes have been to say the least rather detrimental to that particular nation in which the ‘Cousins’ fiddled and note, there are many.

    Here, I could talk about Ho Chi Minh, a ceaselessly inventive and able, dangerous man who was trained by US special agents – see how that worked out. Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan was a CIA operative – yeah I know. I could mention the debacle in Iran in 1953.

    Now, honestly, really no one’s perfect, I can see that but why was it that, a US extra territorial organization, at times be so “off reservation” and out of control?

    It’s a wonder, I was never sure what they were doing in South America [remember Chile if you will] and since well before Che Guevara, and the Bay of Pigs fiasco in Cuba. Then, a thirty years covert op, fighting the drug runners and cartels in Colombia and therein destabilizing the whole of Central America and Mexico with it. Alas, when the actual problem was ‘domestic consumption’ and prohibition, as people say, Prohibition only provides thousands of jobs for government proscriptive agencies, is it not the case?

    I am only skimming the surface, the CIA’s long record of meddling is hard to fathom, what did they mean to achieve and really they haven’t learned any lessons, spooks or military, if one considers the “Enduring Freedom” effort, 2001 in Afghanistan and “Shock and Awe” 2003 – 2009 Iraq are anything to go by.

    It is reckoned that covert op’s spent $500,000,000,000 [I may be three noughts missing] arming and training a “moderate Syrian Army” and to what effect?

    But then, the bbc and left wing media have spent the last 50 odd years, since the 68 campus riots [the great unwashed hooked up, lusting after Hanoi Jane] – questioning the motives and methods of the CIA indeed anything concerning US overseas policy has been fair game for their ire and yet they were fully behind western forces making an ‘intervention’ in the Syrian cock-up and how two faced can it get?

    Pretty much, I am still pro CIA, always have been because I firmly believe in the USoA for all of its undoubted faults, democracy still reigns in the States. Communism is the scourge, it is naked evil; nihilism mixed with megalomania and authoritarianism is a poisonous mix, ref China and their little brother in North Korea. America is western democracy in all its spots and warts but by God it’s an endless improvement on something like the Brussels mafia state.

    Russia came out of its torpor, gave up with its Soviet idiocy and welcomed in freedom, as per they did it badly but even now Moscow glitters and in pockets thrives as it never did under Breshnev and his mates. Vladimir Putin, is a strong man, he is not the devil, he is Russian, he is a modern day Tsar.
    Russia strives to be recognized, we should never spurn it, mother Russia has been more often than not Britain’s ally since Peter and our interests and rivalries indeed are shared, we should never let the bear out of our sights but also keep them on our side in cordial entente, peace AND and friendship if at all possible.

    So, we arrive at the CIA and The Donald.

    Mr. Trump wishes to have a new relationship with the Russian president, it’s about time.

    Russia helped end the awful impasse in Aleppo, probably now, Bashar al Assad may just be able to restore peace and kick Isil out of his country. Peace in Syria? Hallelujah!

    Apart from OBARMY, Westminster, the house of Saud and its satraps who and it must be observed ‘the gulf knot’ have never rehoused one single refugee from that theatre [Levant]……..just who [in the west] could say that if peace comes to SYRIA – this was not desirable?

    Why is President Putin still not flavour of the month, when, just for Syria: he should be the one on the front of ‘Time’ mag.

    Could it be that, for the CIA, FBI, homeland security and all others besides, having a bogey man is desirable, and we reflect, jobs man, jobs.

    The US war on drugs is a calamity, the war on terrorism has failed, the US security forces need a focus and Vladimir Putin is it, his “we hate Vlad” T-shirts cover a massive, gaping hole in their credibility…………. because, think, if half of what they say is true, then talk about taking your eye off the ball, its also known as gross dereliction of duty.

    Back in the UK, Sky TV, ITN, the bbc and lots of UK media organs are jumping up and down, incensed that the Donald seems to be ignoring the advice of his security agencies, now switch it around and ask yourselves if. If Hillary had won, and Russian hackers had defamed Donald Trump and spiked his campaign, how bothered would anyone be in the media liberal cognoscenti and Soros households, they’d still be celebrating Hillary’s win to notice.

    Finally, as Senator McCain admitted, the hacking did not effect the presidential election, so what’s the fuss all about? Lets face it, it ain’t nuttin to do with us, so why does our media insist on making it so?

    What, why indeed?

    In the end, Donald Trump sails on, God bless America and so, shout fuck off to the left wing weepies; the beeb, mouthpiece of Brussels – they don’t like it up ’em, and Donald will shove it to ’em, has loads of pikestaffs to hoist them.

    Plus, The ‘Cousins’ will get with the flow for they really need to, this is a new world ordered.

    • January 7, 2017 at 10:26 am

      Good stuff, Hereward.

      I do think it’s insanity for our FCO to be allowed to be anti-Russian that way.

      • Hereward Unbowed.
        January 7, 2017 at 4:18 pm

        Russia is an immensely important world power, a country, politically, strategically, economically which matters to Britain.

        I think the great powers in the west should ditch the UN and think very hard about the continuance of Nato………………………..

        imho, I would see a tripartite between the USA, Britain and it’s close allies, Can, Aus, NZ and Denmark alongside Russia, with India as a welcome partner.
        I would be totally objective neither totally hostile nor particularly friendly with the Gulf states but also have a concord with Iran.

        The current set up; EU, UN, and the Islamic nations constantly undermining all, plus Nato, all are not fit for purpose as is theresa may and her woeful understanding of how things now are.

        Britain, needs to ship away towards something more like perfidious Albion.

  2. Henry Kaye
    January 7, 2017 at 11:10 am

    Hereward is far better informed than I will ever be and I have always respected his opinions. I was, therefore, once again pleased to read his thoughts about Mr Putin’s position. I have long been highly suspicious of the media’s reported accusations of his devious dealings and feel that he stands unjustly accused.

    • January 7, 2017 at 12:16 pm

      The good thing is that these things are coming out – fighting to stay hidden but they ARE coming out and everyone in the world is getting to see them. Good.

  3. mona
    January 7, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    I stopped watching the BBC years ago. those smug smarmy creeps who still live in bullshitville, I have noticed in particular they never say anything positive about DJT, dump negative remarks about Brexit into the mind prior to interviews about EU, still waiting for a debate about sharia courts in Britain

  4. Ted Treen
    January 7, 2017 at 10:53 pm

    And if my memory serves me correctly, this wondrous agency-of-truth also declared that subsequent to the fall of The Shah of Iran, there was no objection to the return of an exiled but easy-going moderate cleric from Paris.

    This cleric was Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.

    • Hereward Unbowed.
      January 8, 2017 at 12:39 am

      All true.

  5. Graham Wood
    January 8, 2017 at 9:51 am

    There is no doubt that the BBC is a continuing cancer and 5th column in Britain today. It exists only because it trades on its former great name and reputation.
    With imperious arrogance it controls all input into both TV and radio so that it’s lefty stance is constantly reinforced.
    I notice that even it’s bog standard news on R4 has degraded into a an exercise of substituting a clear reporting of news with shrill sound-bites from all sources, many of them entirely anonymous and out of their original context.
    Further, the BBC is grossly incompetent. Eg. To complain via their “have your say” facility is promptly blocked and returned with the ludicrous message that it’s mailbox is full. (I have tried every day for a week to post them a comment)

    Of course they could not care less, that way they exercise central censorship and ensure that non PC comment is not publicly aired.
    The sooner this parasitic organisation’s useless “charter” is ended so much the better

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