Watching the great and good take sides on this issue, it doesn’t seem straightforward.
— Katie Hopkins (@KTHopkins) October 1, 2017
For the record, the results were:
Official Catalan referendum vote results as announced on TV3
Yes: 2,020,144 (90.09%)
No: 176,565 (7.87%)
— Julian Assange 🔹 (@JulianAssange) October 1, 2017
All right, look at this:
During the Franco-Spanish War (1635–1659), Catalonia revolted (1640–1652) against a large and burdensome presence of the Royal army in its territory, becoming a republic under French protection. Within a brief period France took full control of Catalonia, at a high economic cost for Catalonia, until it was largely reconquered by the Spanish army.
Always worth checking history on things like this. The Catalans have been at it a very long time and it’s always worked out badly for them:
In 1914, the four Catalan provinces formed a Commonwealth, and with the return of democracy during the Second Spanish Republic (1931–1939), the Generalitat of Catalonia was restored as an autonomous government. After the Spanish Civil War, the Francoist dictatorship enacted repressive measures, abolishing Catalan institutions and banning the official use of the Catalan language again.
Throughout its history, the Catalan region has fought in various wars, usually on the losing side. All right, leaving that aside, reflect on 1956:
The Rákosi government thoroughly politicised Hungary’s educational system to supplant the educated classes with a “toiling intelligentsia”. Russian language study and Communist political instruction were made mandatory in schools and universities nationwide. Religious schools were nationalized and church leaders were replaced by those loyal to the government. In 1949 the leader of the Hungarian Catholic Church, Cardinal József Mindszenty, was arrested and sentenced to life imprisonment for treason.
Yet such an overlord had much to do with Islam not gaining a foothold and it still doesn’t in the Russian influence region.
Moving onto these isles, we have a bunch of people acting like the Spanish govt, the ones called Remoaners, who are loyal to the EU superstate and will use any measures [largely peaceful so far] for that superstate imposed from afar to rule.
Meanwhile, the historical nation of Britain has fought hard for its right to exist, seeing off independence moves in the outlying regions, including Scotland and its communist leader Krankie.
Meanwhile, within that historical nation is another – England – and not long ago, it was illegal to fly an English flag [see Catalans].
Meanwhile, within England, there have been various moves to revive Wessex and Northumbria, for example, but not with any success. Yet Yorkshire retains its distinct nature.
At which point does one support and identify with sub-regions of a large state and to what extent is violence acceptable in order to preserve that sub-region? You see where this is going. And how mad is it when the police start laying into the firefighters?
That way madness lies:
— Catalans for Yes (@CatalansForYes) October 1, 2017